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I actually can't bear kids, so I
don't want kids myself you know,

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so I'm glad I'm gay,

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but Elton John's taken on another kid,

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he's an example, he's fine,

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two gays, Michael and Elton John,
as I look, they're fine.

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Never.

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Gay people, gay couples,
 especially men,

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should never adopt children,

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not because I don't think men can
look after children as good as women,

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but I always think women
have got a bond with a child

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that a man will never have.

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That's a sort of a difficult
question about gay people adopting,

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because obviously you have to consider
the welfare of the child first.

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So, not entirely happy with that.

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Gay people adopting children ...

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See the problem is not,
that ain't the problem,

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the problem is other people's
perceptions of gay people,

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the fact that some people think
that, just because, say two men,

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want to adopt,
they shouldn't be allowed to,

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because other people and kids will
bully and say stuff about that,

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but at the end of the
day, it is what it is,

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people should have the right to do
what they want, it's a free country.

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That's what the law says.

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I think gay couples should
be allowed to adopt

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or do it by surrogacy.

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I'm one of the people who wants to adopt

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or do it by surrogacy, so I fully
support it and agree with it 100%.

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I don't think it makes a
difference whether the parents

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that are raising the
children are gay or straight,

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as long as they love the child
and raise him as himself,

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and not try to change him to be
whatever they want him to be.

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Doesn't matter if you're
two men together or two women together,

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you're still going to give that child
the love and affection it needs.

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If they're being adopted, it could
mean they're in a better position

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with two people that love
and care for each other

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and then they'll care
and love for the child

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and give them a better life
than what they know right now.

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The thing is, the child as well, by
being with two men or two women,

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they could learn to accept it, rather
than going against it later in life,

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so it could actually help out later on.

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I'm 76 now and I've come out  the homes 
many, many years ago,

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but if somebody was prepared
to take me on as a child,

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and give me the love that I
need, comfort ...

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...why not?